http://gaygothboys.tribe.net/thread/2d537db7-950c-4db3-aab5-9b696477caba?format=rss Tribe.net. Local Connections http://gaygothboys.tribe.net/thread/2d537db7-950c-4db3-aab5-9b696477caba#05b2aa7c-f4c6-43ff-b10b-7dcb6c2b47bc Not to invalidate the article, but I thought I'd point out that the study was done in the UK. Sociological studies tend to vary, sometimes widely, between the US and the UK. While I was never a self-harmer, I was definitely suicidal as a teenager, and have had suicidal tendencies throughout my whole life up until today. In my case I don't think I became goth for identity protection, especially since being goth or punk or alternative back in those days meant you were more likely to be harrassed or attacked, which I think is the opposite of protection. While I guess being goth reflected my depression, it didn't abate or help it after becoming goth, as the study suggests it did for self-harmers. I became goth because it was a part of my personality, and the music I liked, and an aesthetic compatible with discovering I was gay but also trying to reject being gay at the same time. But it's an interesting article, thanks for the link! Mon, 17 Apr 2006 22:25:10 GMT http://gaygothboys.tribe.net/thread/2d537db7-950c-4db3-aab5-9b696477caba#05b2aa7c-f4c6-43ff-b10b-7dcb6c2b47bc $item.owner.firstName 2006-04-17T22:25:10Z http://gaygothboys.tribe.net/thread/2d537db7-950c-4db3-aab5-9b696477caba#f1a2bedd-c1df-44a2-9b66-9c5643e81138 totally found this to be true for me as a gay boy growing up in virginia. http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn8996-goth-subculture-may-protect-vulnerable-children.html Sun, 16 Apr 2006 13:07:26 GMT http://gaygothboys.tribe.net/thread/2d537db7-950c-4db3-aab5-9b696477caba#f1a2bedd-c1df-44a2-9b66-9c5643e81138 automatthew 2006-04-16T13:07:26Z